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Even as adults, maybe especially as adults, friendships can be tricky to navigate, and I think that's for multiple reasons. But the reason I'm talking about it today is because somebody wrote to me to explain how the friendship relationship or basically having relationships with people who are friends can be tricky and how when we've been hurt, it can lead us to not want to go deep with people. And also when we choose not to go deep with people, then we're also kind of giving up a part of sharing of something important to us which is more of ourselves. And so navigating this is what we're going to talk about today.

There was a time after I was married and had young kids where I realized I didn't have any friends anymore. I had plenty of friends in high school. I wasn't popular, but I wasn't unliked. I mean, some people may not have liked me, but in general I think I was pretty well liked. I had a number of people that were friends or acquaintances and then we grew apart. I went off to college 4 hours away, and they went to different schools. By the time we came back, we didn't have Facebook back then in the early 90s, so it was just like, okay, it's kind of weird to call you up after four years of not talking to you and just life had changed. And so I came back and I had like one friend left from high school and we were growing apart. So pretty much when I got married, I had a couple of people that were my roommates in college. I had a new friend I had met from church and then I had a cousin who was in our wedding as my side of the bridal party. And from there, it just kind of became my husband.

I woke up one day, so to speak, and realized I don't have any friends. I just didn't; it wasn't intentional. It just kind of happened. And I remember thinking at that point because that's when I was starting to really be into some anxiety and some insecurity and just I think all of the painful past learning from trauma had caught up to me at that point. And I didn't have the tools yet. As I've said before, I didn't know how to manage it. I didn't have the tools, I didn't know how to do this. And I was washing dishes one day and was kind of upset that I realized like, well, how did I have friends before and I don't now.

And God just basically told me, if there's someone like you who exists, there's got to be another one like you who exists. Like somebody who also wants to be kind and be a nice friend and not hurt you, is pretty much what I was thinking. Well, I mean, I can't be the only person who wants somebody to be a nice friend to me. There've got to be other people who want to be nice and play nice with their pals, and so maybe there's one. And the thought that I wasn't alone as far as female friendships was really encouraging to me. And also the fact that I didn't have to go befriend the world and have all of these people being in my inner circle. I just had to be open to realize that, of course, there's got to be at least one friend out there I just have yet to meet.

And so that began a process of God allowing me to take steps of faith and finding people that I thought could possibly, maybe not be scary and be safe, that I could go and have one coffee meet up and then go home and never do it again if it didn't work out. Almost like male/female dating relationships, like, I'm going to try you out. I don't know if I can trust you yet. This is scary. What do we do? Because especially if you have anxiety or you've been hurt before or you have anticipatory fear, it can be hard to put yourself out there if you're in that kind of state. And so I just encourage you to do it one at a time and to realize that there are other people out there who are kind and who don't want to hurt anybody. There are other people who've been hurt and wouldn't dream of doing that to somebody intentionally. And so I think it's really truthful and important for me to say that even though it feels like friends will betray you because of past experience or that you might be hurt in some way or that it feels awkward, there's a lot of truth to the fact that there are safe, healthy people out there. And the first step is you being a safe, healthy person.

So the listener who wrote to me was saying that they're guarded in friendships because they've been hurt a lot, because they want someone who values friendship as much as they do. So she thought that this friend valued their friendship as much as she did and then found out through getting hurt that that didn't appear to be the case after all. And so she asked if I could talk about that.

And that has happened to me. My best friend in high school, early high school was and I say that because by the end of high school, she was not my best friend. My best friend was somebody who I have no idea what in the world happened there. We were practically inseparable for years. We really enjoyed each other's company.

And next thing I know, she started getting nasty. And I didn't know why she was getting nasty. And if she had told me that I had done something wrong or that she needed me to talk to her about something, I may not have had all the skills and tools to do it perfectly back then, but I think I would have been willing to have that conversation. But to my recollection, that never was brought up, and I never knew what I did. And I remember this one time she was making fun of me, and she was continuing to just razz me, and I was patient, and I stuffed it down, even though she was hurting my feelings, and I was really trying to kind of respond appropriately. And she kept pushing and pushing until finally, if you've listened to my previous volcano episode a couple of weeks ago, it was like I pushed it down. I pushed it down. I pushed the next insult down.

And she kept at it so much that finally I erupted, and the eruption wasn't yelling at her. That almost probably would have been better. But I said something that I knew would hurt her specifically because well, it wasn't that I knew it would hurt her. I don't want to say it that way because I don't think it was to intentionally hurt her. I knew it was an area of sensitivity to her, and it was the area that she was pushing on me. And so I retaliated by pushing back. And that was the end of our friendship.

And I would never have wanted to do that if I hadn't felt like she just wouldn't stop. That still doesn't excuse it. Absolutely doesn't excuse it. In fact, for years, that was one of my deepest regrets, what I said to her. And I knew it hurt her. She did tell me that that hurt her, but she had started this behavior where she was kind of being mean to me way before this as well. So that was kind of like my final straw. And I'm not proud of it, and I've repented of it, and I felt so horrible for it.

And now I've forgiven myself for it because I know God forgives me for it, and I know that it wasn't okay, and I wouldn't do it again, but I was a kid who was struggling and was hurting, and it was the way that I thought I can get her to stop.

But what that meant to me that someone I thought cared about me...why are you hurting me? Repeatedly. And I couldn't figure it out. And it was such confusion. And the only thing that I could come up with was, that's sad. I'm sad that that happened, but I'm not going to stick around for people treating me poorly. I'm sad in both directions. I'm sad for what happened from her, and I'm sad what I did, and I'm just sad the friendship is over.

And when you can recognize that there are times for friendships to be over, that it's okay to set boundaries and walk away from people who are not safe and healthy, but the people who are, they will be there for you. And if you find out, even after a long period of time that someone isn't, I'd like to ask you to look at their character. Is this out of character for them? Is this a one off thing? Are they under particular stress at the moment? Did they go through something really tough? Did something just bubble up to the surface? Even if you don't know if that's the case or not, could there be a reason that their behavior doesn't really have anything to do with you, but something they're going through? So that would be one of the things that I would have you assess. If this is somebody that you were close to and they just hurt you or let you down in some way before pulling away, assuming that they probably have pulled away, or if they haven't, that you've pulled away, which I don't know the dynamics of your specific situation, but if that happens, that you can move towards and try to get resolution, try to figure out how the two of you can work together to understand what happened.

And is it really what you interpreted it as? Sometimes our interpretation is left to our own devices. So if you have texted somebody and they don't return it right away, you can be left to your own imagination. And that imagination might be, oh, they hate me. But your imagination could also go to, oh, they're busy, they got that job. I'm so happy for them. Right? You don't really know why unless you actually talk to the person. So making assumptions that aren't helpful, like they don't like you or they don't want to be around you, or they're not as good a friend as you thought they were may not actually be the truth.

It maybe they hurt your feelings. It maybe they did something thoughtless or rude, but it doesn't necessarily mean they don't want to be your friend. Okay? So that's a time that if you've been friends and their track record is such that it's been good for a while and they've been good for a while, you can talk to them and say, hey, I don't know what went wrong here, but I'd like to at least try to address it so we don't lose our friendship. But I am feeling really hurt and kind of tender and not really sure I can trust, but I thought it was worth it for us to talk about it.

But if they've left or they have told you that it's over or they have done something that you really are not going to be able to risk again. And you need that safe boundary, that's okay too. But first make sure that you are not putting some meaning onto them and their behavior that they haven't had a chance to explain. But if they have left or they have grieved you in some way and they're not sorry or they're not willing to make amends, or they're not somebody who will correct the problem and have a discussion with you, then it's okay to feel sad. Release them to God and move on and find the people who will have your back, and it is a trust walk.

It is a trust walk because there are no guarantees about human behavior. There's only faith, and you putting forth a good effort. You being the person that you want a friend to be to you and trusting God that he will bring good gifts to you in good friendships and pray for that and also just being real with somebody, hey, this hurt me before, so if you think this is going towards a less surface-level relationship and really getting intimate, letting the person know, hey, I'm really enjoying us being friends and going to the movies or shopping together or whatever. And I'd actually like to be more intentional about being in each other's lives more regularly or getting our kids together more often so we can go have a coffee date while they play or something like that, but this is an area where I'm growing and I've been hurt before in friendships. And so I'm afraid to make friendships and really just let them know and ask how they show up in friendships. Are they likely to pull back and tell them what you're likely to do? If you really feel like this could be a solid, safe, good friendship that God has given you, then I think that that's okay to realize that God has good plans and good gifts for you.

And if it's to that level where you think that you're going to let down your guard with this person a little bit more, let down that boundary guardrail a little bit more because they seem trustworthy and they seem safe. If they're that trustworthy and safe, you have nothing to lose by actually having the discussion with them. Hey, I've been really hurt in relationships. If there's ever a point where you don't want to be friends anymore, would you please not just leave me or would you please not say nasty things to me? Not that you would, but that's what happened before. Like let them know how much you would appreciate if this friendship could continue if it works for both of you, but also that if it ever did need to come to an end, it would mean a lot towards being able to trust again. If you knew that it would be a kind parting of ways that was just mutually beneficial. And depending on how that person answers that topic that you bring up tells so much about whether they will be that good kind of person for you or not. See, in a healthy relationship, a friend who has the qualities and the ability to be a good friend will be able to say, wow, thanks for sharing that with me; I've been hurting some relationships too. Yeah. I'd like to be a good friend to you. And if that's what you need for us to be able to become friends yeah, I promise I'd never do that to you.

I did this once with my husband because I had been hurt in previous dating relationships. And so here we are, and we're starting to date, and I just flat out asked him because I didn't want to go through the pain again. We were just out one time driving somewhere for our date, and I said, this may be a weird question, but how do you fight? And I was like, do you hold grudges? Do you get silent? Do you walk away? Or do you want to resolve it right away? I don't know if those are the exact answers.

I gave him options, but he said, oh, I like to resolve it right away. I was like, I do too. And he has been true to his word for the last 29 years. Okay. Doesn't mean we don't fight. Doesn't mean that we don't have to both get a hold of ourselves and tempers and make sure that we're intentional with our word choices or repent and apologize if we do something that hurts the other. But it's not an intentional hurt the other. It's a maybe we've been hurt and we need to make allowances for each other to understand each other and where we're coming from better, but that we are committed to always work it out.

It's a leap of faith when you've been hurt to be able to trust that somebody else isn't going to do that to you. But the truth is, the only person you can control is you. And how you show up and how you take steps of faith and how you trust God to bring you good people and how you assess people and let them prove who they are to you. My guess is that whoever this person is that hurts you so much that you now feel you have to be surface with other friends and feel like you're betraying yourself from being fully known that whoever they were, whatever happened in your circumstances, that that was painful because you had a set of expectations, and they didn't live up to it. But if they didn't value you or your friendship, that is on them. If you're making assumptions as to what they should be doing, then that's something that you can even now talk to them about, hey, this is what that felt like. This is what I was thinking. Is that accurate? But if you don't even feel safe to do that, that's okay, they weren't for you.

We're not going to mesh with everybody but these new friends that you're keeping at surface level. If you want to go deeper, pick one. Pick one that seems safest, that seems to treat people the nicest, that seems to be loyal and cultivate that friendship. And then see who their healthy friends are and then maybe they can become your friends too. Look for patterns of who people hang out with. Healthy people hang out with healthy people because healthy people are probably aware when people are toxic or not. And so if you can find somebody who treats other people in ways that appear healthy to you and you feel safe around them, I'll bet they're a person that you can take it one step further to try to be a little bit of vulnerable, a little bit more vulnerable with test them out, see if they can be trusted or not. If not, you're not missing out. You're just, okay, not them. And if they are, you gain a valuable, valuable gift. Doesn't mean they won't ever hurt you or let you down. It means that if and when the hurts come, they will be there to work through it with you and you with them. That's part of being a good friend and being treated with a good friend with good friendship. Okay, so I want you to realize that you can set boundaries and choose how deep to go with somebody. But you don't have to go deep with everybody. You can take it one person at a time and feel your way through it.

Holding on to God, asking for him to bring the right people, and then taking the next step. And notice how your body feels too. That's another tip. Notice how your body feels because your body may feel tense around somebody, or it may feel relaxed around somebody. I mean, if it's feeling relaxed, then maybe allow a little bit of your boundary to go down. See if you can trust a little bit of vulnerability. Not everything. Don't just say, oh, hey, you're my best friend here, come into my house and take everything. They haven't earned that yet, but one step at a time.

The good friendships are of God. Don't let what the enemy's tried to steal keep you from the good things of God. The enemy is a liar and a thief who comes to steal, kill, and destroy. And he's trying to steal your confidence and your peace and your trust. Don't let him just choose people who are worthy of it. And I'm sorry that your friend wasn't.

Everybody go take on the day. God bless. 

I don't know that I've ever met a mom who hasn't thought that time was going too fast or that they were doing a good enough job for their kids in the way that they parented. I mean, we love our kids so much, and it doesn't matter if they're newborns or they're 50. We love our kids and we want to take care of them. We want to protect them. 

We want to hold on to them and love them. And that gets confusing for the kids if we don't realize that our role changes and needs to change, and it's okay for it to change. And the kids can think that they owe us or that they must depend on us for things that they are fully capable of doing on their own.

But then there's also this flip side of what happens if I let go and I never get them back? What happens if what I fear when I hear about things that happen at schools would happen? How would I survive? How could I protect them? How could I help them if they needed me? How would I know? How would I be there?

I used to feel that way. When my son got to be about kindergarten age, my husband would take him to school and I would stand there and I would say, oh, I hope he's okay. I hope he's going to be okay. God, please let him to be okay. And I didn't realize how much of my own anxiety there was because I didn't want anything bad to ever happen to him. Then, I heard his younger sister, at about three years old, saying goodbye to him at the window with me, and I heard what I was saying reflected back in her words. She said, oh, I hope he's going to be okay. And that's the moment I said, that is enough.

You are not going to put the spirit of fear into her and you are not going to have this anymore. You are going to trust him to God. That is the only place that he is safe anyhow. The only thing you can really do, the only thing you can do to keep him safe, is trust him to God, because God goes with him. God is his heavenly father. God will be with Him and protect him and never leave Him or forsake him. And that is the way it is. So, Michelle, if you need to go and pull the blanket up over your head and cry or hide or wail or pray or talk to a counselor or share with your husband or go cry on a girlfriend's shoulder or whatever, that's your stuff to deal with. That does not belong on your oldest son, and that does not belong on your next child, and that does not belong in your family. Right. It's not something that we are meant to live in. But I was carrying this around. I was thinking, oh, my gosh, I'm so responsible.

If you've heard that saying that being a parent is forever having your heart walk around outside of your body, I know that firsthand. I've had that three times. My heart is forever walking around outside of my body. And I love these people, and I don't want anything bad to ever happen to them. I think that every mom who is honest with herself and really cares about her kids feels that way. I want to protect my kid at all cost. Well, that's good, because that's our job when they're young.

What also helped me, besides entrusting my kids to God and His protection, Him being their loving father, Him who is the one who gave me them to steward and shepherd, is that I watched Finding Nemo. There was so much wisdom in that because there was a moment where Marlon, Nemo's dad, was saying, I won't ever let anything happen to you, Nemo. And Dory, even though she couldn't even remember her name or what was going on, had such sage wisdom. Well, that's kind of funny. If you never let anything happen to them, then nothing would ever happen to them. And when I realized that, that if I kept them in some imaginary protective bubble, even if I would like to, I would also be keeping out the good things, the good experiences, the good lessons, the amazing growth opportunities, the wonderful ways they can build confidence and grow in the Lord themselves, right?

So, I had to take the perspective of letting stuff happen to them, but here's the thing, I have to equip them so that they someday will launch and be able to handle it for themselves. That's your job as a Mom. So if you have young kids or even all the way through whatever stage up until adulthood or even college age kids, right, you being able to model for them and what's the word? Imbue them. Pour into them the skills, the tools, the wisdom, what to consider, how to manage themselves. You're equipping them, so that you work yourself out of a job, and that is not a bad thing. That is how it's meant to be.

But if you're having anxiety because your kid's about to go off to school and you're going to miss them, it's understandable that you're going to miss them. It doesn't mean that anything bad's going to happen to them that God can't help them through, but it also doesn't mean that anything bad's going to happen to them that they can't get through. And it doesn't mean that your worst imaginations are going to happen to them. That's imagination. That's not what you're dealing with. You're dealing with a child who is going off to school, and you're going to miss them, but you're going to welcome them home, and they are going to be able to be in your care where you're going to be able to teach them, nurture them, and love them, or you're going to homeschool them and have them have opportunities to get into connection with other teachers in different ways, other kids in different ways, other environments that are healthy and good for them. Right? Whatever you choose, you are empowering your kids.

And if, God forbid, what you most fear would happen, whatever that would be, first of all, your imagination is most likely way worse than anything that's actually going to happen to them. But besides that, even if the worst, God forbid, were to happen, your kid would still be okay with God and you would be able to get through it with God. And when we trust God as the ever loving father and the one we can trust, all of our days and times are in His hands anyhow. It's a false illusion of control. What we do have control about is how we think, how we manage our feelings, what we do, what our choices are, and the wisdom that we have to be able to move forward.

The wisdom I had been given by Nemo, by the movie, was I have to let my kids have age-appropriate freedom. And we did homeschool, but there were things that we did so that they had these other parts of life too. We did writers' group, horseback riding lessons, ice skating lessons. Oh, I can't even think of all the things right now. Violin, co-ops, yearbook. I mean, there were so many things that they all did sports here and there, right? And each one of those they grew into and they were capable. And we'd talk about it and we'd deal with any stressors and we'd celebrate the things that went well, would pray about what we needed to. And it was a learning experience. It didn't kill anybody. It didn't hurt anybody to be able to have a safe place to come home and process it and get tools and modeling.

That's your job as a parent, to model how to live, to teach, to encourage, to shepherd, to steward, and to entrust to God as a Christian mom that He has even better things for your kids than you can imagine.

I know how hard it is to imagine dropping your kid off when they're in preschool and you're like, this is the first time they're going to be away from me. I also know that when that happened to me and it was like the longest 3 hours of my life to that point that I was watching a mom who had five kids standing there kind of going like, oh, this could have been longer. I needed that time for myself and me going, you're not a first-time mom, are you? And she was like, oh, no, this is my fifth, so she was already past that.

My youngest is 18 now and she's on her own. She's married; she's doing great. She married a great Christian guy that God brought her very early in life. Would I have liked to have had her around the house longer? Did I think I had a few more years while she was in college to impart my wisdom? Yeah. But guess what? She was ready. And God made her ready. And God prepared the next steps for her. And she and her husband are walking out a very wonderful life in what God called them to. She was ready for it.

My other kids are in college. One of them is engaged. One of them is in ministry. The one that's engaged is a writer and doing these great events with people. And so it's like they're becoming their own unique individuals. They're not even like each other. All three are different. And while I was the same parent and I love them all the same, I parented them according to their needs. And that's what you do as a mom. Your responsibility is not to protect them from everything. It is to encourage them and be there for them, to help them know how to handle these things and eventually work yourself out of a job.

But here's the part from the other side that's a good thing. If you're not ready yet, that's because your kid's likely not ready yet. When your kid is ready, then you'll move to the next step with them, and you'll be ready, too. Take your cues from your kid. When your kid lets you know, I got those lessons, and I'm ready to move to the next step, let them. It's just like potty training, right? When a child is in a diaper and you teach them how to use the potty, that's a big deal. And sometimes they're not quite ready, and sometimes they master it. Eventually they master it. There's very seldom anybody besides a medical problem who graduates from high school still in diapers, right? And so assuming that at some point they will be able to manage those functions again, assuming that there's not a medical issue or something like that, then they're going to be ready to handle that. Same with the car when they're ready to drive. They might not be ready to drive across the country, but they probably are ready to take lessons or to get some hours under their belts or to drive to the grocery store.

If you're standing there saying, I must hold on to you for everything that it's worth, I have to. I can't let you go. You're my world. That's selfish. You're not trying to be selfish. You're trying to love them. Because we started out with this responsibility of loving them, and we have done that, and you've done it well. When your kids are confident enough to take the next step into who they have developed, into who they are becoming, who God made them to be, you can mourn the loss of some things that you used to have. Like, I loved four year old hugs and kisses. I love their forts under the table. I love their snuggling with us to watch a kids movie on the couch, all of us together. But I also love having my son in law here with my daughter to watch a movie or to go out to dinner. I also love seeing my kids paying their own bills and making their own choices and going after their goals and talking to us about how they've grown in the Lord with their friends and the fun that they've had and the things that they're learning and seeing, the ways that they shine. You don't lose them.

Seasons change, your position changes, but that does not mean that you lose them. It does not mean that they don't need you. It means that you move to the next step with them. And when they're all grown up, that next step is, hey, I'm here if you need me. I'm in a relationship with you as adult to adult. But if you're not there yet, that's okay.

But let me tell you, just like that woman who had five kids, if you're afraid of, how am I ever going to do this? How am I ever going to let go how could I ever let anything happen to them? How can I let them out of a protective bubble? The first step is to entrust them to God's care and love. He's the one who gave you them anyway. He has good for them. He has good for you. He can be trusted. He's got you both. Secondly, when they're ready, you will be able to do that. And if you can't, there are ways to get help. That's where therapy comes in for you or a support network of moms who have gone before. And you can also remember what I'm telling you. It's good when they can drive. It's good when they find good people to spend time with. It's good when they go to somebody who's a safe, healthy, like big sister or big brother in the Lord for encouragement instead of only coming to mom and dad, it means that there are other people in their lives that can be safe.

Your job is to help them know how to take the next steps with wisdom, how to choose healthy people to be in relationships with, how to conduct themselves so that they're healthy. And as you grow, as they grow, as you both have this relationship that develops, it's good. So just like that mom of five, when my son was only going into preschool, I can now say, if you're worried about your kid driving, I want you to think about how cool it is when they can run errands for you and come home with a treat for the family. Or come home and tell you about this wonderful time they had and maybe how they gave their friend a ride and you could be so proud of them because they cared for somebody else. I want you to think about how great it is when they have money to actually buy you a Mother's Day gift. I mean, mints on the pillow and breakfast in bed is great and all, but it's kind of really cool when they have money and they can actually buy you something that you didn't pay for out of their own earned money. It's also really cool if they find their career and it lights them up and they're finding ways to use their God given talents and take steps into the world of who they're meant to be. It's great when they bring people home that are good for them and they make family of those people, such as making them their spouse.

There is so much good ahead. You're seeing a snippet. And don't let your fears or your worries about holding on long enough or strong enough get in the way of your actual job. Be encouraged. God knows what your kids need, he knows what you need, and he has entrusted you as their parent and he will equip you both for every good work. Rest in the truth that God's got you and he gives good, good gifts. Enjoy the gifts of each moment, every stage has blessings. Doesn't mean you won't shed some tears here and there. Doesn't mean you won't have to take some of your fears and concerns to the Lord or some of your old triggers or things that you went through that you're trying to prevent from happening to your kid. That's natural too. But I wanted to provide you with encouragement today not to look at it as the time going away or something that you have to suffocate every last moment out of, but something you can hold with an open hand and say, this is exciting. We're just moving on to the stage we're in and the stage that we're moving to, and we're enjoying the stages that we've had and it's all good.

I hope that encourages you today.